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Jan 30

The Angry Atheist 56 w/ Cognitive Dissonance

Tom and Cecil hang out with The Angry Atheist for an hour to talk about their podcast Cognitive Dissonance. Want to know what kind of money there is to be made podcasting? What about the disconnect people have when applying logic to religion? We cover those questions and more such as, republicans, Osama, Obama, terrorists, Islam, and groupies.

Keep an eye out for Reap as a guest on theCognitive Dissonance podcast.

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  • Marius de Jess

    I just want to say that it is cognitive dissonance to settle on randomness as the ground of all being but to bring in order with natural selection.

    As randomness is all prevailing in time and in space, why should it be that there is selection at all and that selection survives.

    So, randomness is not all prevailing in time and in space; or there is really no randomness except that humans owing to limited knowledge cannot see the order prevailing in all existence, but in close to one’s eyes order is certainly obvious, for example, the nose in our face is testimony to order.

    • http://reapradio.net Reap

      Selection isn’t really selection, there is no intelligence making choices as to survival. Selection refers to the effect of mutation. The nose in the middle of your face is a result of mutation and the environment it is not an example of order it just is. I’m no biologist so I can only say this is the way I understand it.

  • Marius de Jess

    “My comment is awaiting moderation.”

    If it passes moderation, I like to exchange thoughts with atheists about their worldview, here.

  • Marius de Jess

    First, I am glad that I can still write here.

    ————-

    You say: “Selection isn’t really selection, there is no intelligence making choices as to survival. Selection refers to the effect of mutation. The nose in the middle of your face is a result of mutation and the environment it is not an example of order it just is. I’m no biologist so I can only say this is the way I understand it.”

    —————–

    You are making a distinction between what is real and what is not real or delusion, illusion, and therefore is of no effect whatever in the actual objective operation of your body, for example, how your nose operates.

    You are saying then that the nose is not any indication of order but only an illusion or delusion of order.

    Please forgive me, but there is a test to discern something to be a delusion or illusion, namely, by destroying it.

    So, and again forgive me, suppose you just slit off your nose and see whether you will suffer anything at all, which you will not if the nose as a testimony to order is all delusion or illusion.

    I hope to continue with our exchange of thoughts.

    Marius de Jess

    • http://reapradio.net Reap

      I did not say whether or not my nose exists, it does. I’m as sure of that as I can be. I was addressing the placement in the center of the face. The nose does not give the illusion or delusion of order to me, it does so to you.Since I understand how the nose came to be I would suggest you do the test and then tell us how much worth a severed nose has in a universe of order.

      • Marius de Jess

        In your words:

        “Selection isn’t really selection, there is no intelligence making choices as to survival. Selection refers to the effect of mutation. The nose in the middle of your face is a result of mutation and the environment it is not an example of order it just is. I’m no biologist so I can only say this is the way I understand it.”

        There are several statements.

        Suppose if I may you choose one statement that is the most important one you want to convey to readers.

        Here are the following statements from your words above:

        1. “Selection isn’t really selection,

        2. there is no intelligence making choices as to survival.

        3. Selection refers to the effect of mutation.

        4. The nose in the middle of your face is a result of mutation

        5. and the environment it is not an example of order it just is.

        6. I’m no biologist so

        7. I can only say this is the way I understand it.”

        Or if you prefer what is the one thought foremost in your heart and mind in your series of statements above? Make that one thought very sharp, precise, concise, and clear.

        The way I understand your series of statements above, you are stating in effect that there is no order in life or in a living thing, it is all in effect delusion or illusion.

        Marius de Jess

        • http://reapradio.net Reap

          I am really much too busy to play games with you. You asked a question, I answered in a way I hoped would make my opinion/thoughts clear to you. If I failed then it is unfortunate but it is something I can live with. I don’t know what your obsession is with illusion/delusion, you can’t trust your brain to always be honest with itself. This is yet another unfortunate fact but it is something you will have to live with. Good luck

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